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Jul
07

Team to beat in the East? It’s just hype.

Again, once the Garnett trade happens the Celtics will be a successful regular season team and probably win one or two playoff series.  They HAVE NOT, however, become “the team to beat” or favorites in the East.  Yes, the trade is exciting.  Superstars don’t change teams everyday.  But people need to calm down and look at this situation realistically.  Everywhere I look I’m reading that if LeBron could take the Cavs to the finals last season with no supporting cast then this Celtics team will go undefeated in Eastern Conference competition.  There are so many flaws with that logic I don’t know where to start.  LeBron last season was a more dominant player than any of the three players who will be on the Celtics were last season or will be this season.  Also, LeBron didn’t have much of a supporting cast but he had a hell of a lot more than the Celtics will have beyond Pierce/Allen/Garnett.  LeBron had Zydrunas Ilgauskas while the Celtics will have Kendrick Perkins.  LeBron had Donyell Marshal, Anderson Varejao, Daniel Gibson and Damon Jones coming off the bench.  Now these guys aren’t going to win any sixth man of the year awards but the Celtics will have . . .oh yeah, they won’t have a bench left after this trade.  Under contract the Celtics will have Brian Scalabrine, Tony Allen (coming off of knee surgery), Leon Powe and Brandon Wallace.  Cleveland’s supporting cast sounds pretty good now, huh?


Now that the deal is done Brian Scalabrine
is poised for greatness in his new role as
the Celtics 6th man

The other problem with the logic if LeBron could do it with that Cavs team then the Celtics will reign supreme is that people are forgetting that the Cavs path to the finals was only so easy because of luck.  First they faced the Wizards without Arenas who was at least as valuable to his team as LeBron was to the Cavs.  Then they faced a Nets team that didn’t really care.  Once Vince Carter beat his old team in Toronto he accomplished all he cared to.  Why put off the summer any longer.   Finally they faced one good team in the Pistons.  However, the aging and arrogant/apathetic Detroit team was worn down from from an energetic Bulls team and believed they were so good they didn’t have to try in order to win the series.  Overall the Cavs only had to play one out of the 5 best teams in the East on their way to the finals.  That will not be the case for the Celtics in the ’08 playoffs.  The team to beat in the East will probably still be the Pistons but it’s a Conference that’s very much up in the air.  I don’t believe the Pistons will win the East nor do I believe the Celtics will. 

There are too many talented young teams in the East for old teams like those two to make it to the Finals.  Even a team like the Magic, if it somehow reached the the conf. finals, could take that Celtics team. Howard would negate KG, Lewis would match Pierce and Redick or some other one dimensional shooter would match Allen.  Ray Allen is a great player, but with the talents that Garnett and Pierce bring Allen is not going to have more of a role than a spot up shooter.  With each team’s big 3 doing the same things the thirty-somethings would simply tire out before the twenty-somethings.  Not to mention the Magic would have a good coach in VanGundy while Boston is putting up with Doc. 

The new look Celtics are very exciting but lets see them in action before crowning them Eastern Conference Champions.   

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8 Responses to “Team to beat in the East? It’s just hype.”


  1. 1 Paul
    August 1, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Redick will match Allen!?! You mean a player that couldn’t get any burn last year will match a 7 time all-star coming off his best year in the NBA?

  2. 2 312chill
    August 1, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    By no means am I trying to say JJ Redick is or ever will be as good as Ray Allen. With three scoring superstars on one roster Ray Allen’s job will amount to little more sitting at the three point line waiting for the open 3’s that Pierce’s penetration and KG’s low post game will create. My point is that someone with as limited a game as Redick’s could do just as well in that role for a lot less money. All JJ can do is sit and wait for open threes. That’s all I think Allen will have an opportunity to do. His role could be filled by Redick or Jason Kapono just as well.

  3. 3 firedannyainge
    August 1, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    You totally dismissed a healthy Miami team.lol

    The Celtics are not done dealing yet and if Mchale is stupid enough to trade Garnett for literal trash then another GM will do the same for some other player.

    Your opinion might to be legit if you actually gave Miami credit.
    It also smells to high heaven of bitterness. I am not debating your logic on the Celtics chance of not winning the East at all. In that respect I agree with you (Brian Scalabrine is your best bench player folks) but if Orlando is the best team you can come up with as debate then your cause is already lost.

  4. 4 celticspride5
    August 1, 2007 at 8:02 pm

    Wow that was one of the most misinformed articles i have ever read. You are aware that KG is every bit as good as lebron right now in their careers and you are saying that no supporting players outside of three perrinial all stars, if the rest of the team can even pass the ball they will be good in the east. Redick will match with Allen are you kidding me. Lewis can guard pierce pick a different sport casue you arent even close

  5. 5 312chill
    August 2, 2007 at 8:17 am

    OK, response to the last two.

    I’m not sure if you watched the Miami-Chicago series. It’s true that Wade wasn’t 100%, but by the end of that series it was crystal clear which team was better. I know I’m a Bulls fan but I watched every minute of the series and after seeing they could have played 10 games and I am confident the Heat wouldn’t have won more than 1. If wade was healthy they’d win more but they still wouldn’t be as good as the Bulls. They’re getting older and players whose strenght was their natural athletic abilities (Shaq, Walker, Williams) as opposed to in their refined skills (Duncan) are falling off quickly.

    The Heat were younger and better in ’06 than ’07. That said, they still would never have won the title without the refs help. I’m not saying it’s Wade’s fault. He is esaily a top 5 player, maybe a top 3 in the NBA today. But still, that teams no title team without referee help.

    I used Orlando not because they’re a great team, but because I believe that even a team as limited as Orlando will be able to beat this Celtics team in a playoff series. I think Detroit would too, but Detroit as an example wouldn’t make my point as well.

    “You are aware that KG is every bit as good as lebron right now in their careers”
    I’m not sure if that’s supposed to mean KG is as good as Lebron is today, or if he was as good as Lebron at the same age. I think at the same age KG was as talented at the same age as BronBron but now, Lebron’s a bit more dominant. I don’t like to use Cleveland’s success last year as an example, but look at the difference between the two teams with one superstar and not much else. I know the Wolves were in the tougher West, but still.

    Again, Redick is not as good as Allen and Lewis is not as good as Pierce. I’m saying they’ll be doing the same things because the Celtics will be overloaded with offensive superstars. They’ll have a nice balance, but only need one superstar and two high skill players to have the same balance.

  6. August 3, 2007 at 12:56 am

    Why is everyone forgetting to mention the Knicks as potential Eastern Conference champs? Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry in the middle? David Lee, Nate Robinson and Jamal Crawford? De niro in el banqo if you ask me.

  7. 7 312chill
    August 3, 2007 at 8:51 am

    I think the Knicks have a decent shot at the playoffs but they’ve traded one pair of identical players (Marbury and Francis) for another set (Curry and Randolph). I don’t think there’s going to be enough room in the paint and while Randolph can it a 15-footer I’ve read he plays no D. I know Eddy can’t play defense. I just don’t see it adding up in a stronger East.


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