22
Aug
07

The Celtics and Team USA

Today in Chris Sheridan’s column he pointed out that Team USA may have some trouble successfully blending the playing styles of Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo:

The uninformed might wonder: "How could they possibly lose with those
three playing together? To which the informed might reply: "Hey, that's
three guys on the court at the same time who, no matter how good they
are, all need the ball in their hands to be effective. It'll be tough
to make that work."

When you read Team USA’s dilemma, what current NBA roster does it remind you of? I know there’s some team that now has three superstars who have throughout their careers always had possession of the ball more than anybody else on their team. Now, suddenly those three players, – just like Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo – are being thrust onto the same team and everyone is as sure that they’ll easily win the Eastern Conference as they were Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo would easily handle the Select Team.

The difference between the Team USA trio and the Celtics trio is that the Celtics will have an entire season to work out the kinks while Team USA will have 10 games. So let’s say that the Celtics do work out the kinks. Paul Pierce becomes the dominant ball handler. When KG gets good position he’ll get the ball in the post and hold it until he shoots or is double teamed. If he’s double teamed he’ll kick it out to the three point line for Ray Allen. Sounds like a great system, right? It is, BUT it will be a vast waste of Ray Allen’s talents if things work out this way. He will be paid like the superstar he is, while playing the game that Jason Kapono plays. Think he’ll get tired of that at some point?

The other possibility is that they never can adapt to not having the entire offense run through them thus never develop a good chemistry. Either way it doesn’t matter because no chemistry means an 8 seed even in the East and good chemistry means a second round playoff series loss because they don’t have a bench. I don’t mean to hate on the Celtics, but Sheridan’s analysis of the Big 3 on Team USA perfectly illustrates my previous arguments about the Celtics and there’s really not a lot of NBA news to write about right now.

Oh well, at least Team USA has a bench.

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11 Responses to “The Celtics and Team USA”


  1. 1 firedannyainge
    August 22, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    The difference is the US team has team players like Lebron. Pierce has never been a team player . Ray Allen has always been the best player on a team and Garnett is well Garnett. He doesn’t
    show up when the game is on the line.

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    (not my site)

  2. 2 312chill
    August 23, 2007 at 8:53 am

    It’s true that none of the Celtics players have passing abilities like LeBron or Kobe. I think team USA would benefit greatly from having KG replace either LeBron, Carmelo, or Kobe. It doesn’t matter which one because they all play a similar game.

  3. 3 Ap;e
    August 23, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Give me a break.

    The only possibilities are that Ray Allen will accept the Jason Kapono role or the whole idea will be a bust? Those are the only possibilities?

    Get real.

    Reality would seem to inform us that the Celtics are pretty much a 3 man team. While there will need to be much chemistry and deference worked out when all 3 of those guys are on the court together (start and end of games), it is pretty obvious that for the C’s to do anything over the course of the year, they are going to have to be playing a lot of the time with only 2 or 1 of those big guns on the floor at the same time. THAT is where you need Ray Allen’s dynamic abilities rather than a role player like Kapono.

    this is a teams PG’s are Rondo and Eddie House at the moment. You really think the fact that their 3 best players can all be primary facilitators is a detriment, when there is that little depth?

    You didn’t really think this through, did you.

  4. 4 312chill
    August 23, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    I did really think this through. I did. I wrote about it multiple times because I did think it through while having little else worth thinking about in terms of the NBA. These are my opinions based on events that have yet to occur. I suppose anything is possible, but then I’m not claiming to predict the future.

    If all three can be efficient facilitators that would be a great thing for the Celtics, not a bad thing. My argument is that they won’t all be able to do so without stepping on each other’s toes. I think you need to re-read the post.

    I actually think Rondo will surprise some people. He’s not tried and ture, and he doesn’t have a jump shot, but I think he’ll turn out to be a decent PG. Will he be good enough this year? We’ll see.

    Also, I think you’re way off in predicting that Doc and Danny will only have 2 or 1 of the big 3 out there at any given time. Those three players will be in the game every minute that their age and health allow them to be.

    Your comment did convince me to go back and remove the word only from my post.

  5. 5 Ape
    August 23, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Well, I can’t vouch for what Danny and Doc will do. But they have both stated the expect to be true contenders with this team.

    I know their track records are very open to ridicule, but one has to hope they are smart enough to know that you don’t win a championship by wearing out your players in the regular season.

    Doc has also stated directly that he plans on having one of those three guys on the court at all times. That would be hard to do if they are always out there as a group, unless the preceding point is completely ignored.

    Look at the C’s bench. You can’t like taking 5 guys from that bench and throwing them out there without at least one of those 3 main guys acoompanying them. That would be a disaster.

    As long as Danny and Doc have some common sense (again debatable), I’m not way off.

    think about how YOU would get the most out of that roster if you were trying to get to the finals with it.

  6. 6 312chill
    August 24, 2007 at 8:56 am

    I don’t follow the Cetls on a daily basis so I didn’t know Doc said that. If he said it you have to believe it will happen until it doesn’t.

    It’s true that at their ages and with their health records I wouldn’t want to wear them out if they were on my team. However, the team is just so shallow that I think they’re all going to have to play as much as possible to win. That would mean all three of them will be out there at the same time a lot in my opinion.

  7. November 6, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    I am very excited with this new look Celtic team, I think they definitely could win it all this year, Rajon Rondo will be the determining factor on how they do this season. I personally always leave it to Vegas to determine the real probabilities of something occurring, right now the odds have the Celtics at 10/1 to win it allWWW.Wagerweb.com NBA Lines so I guess that means a title might be in the stars for Boston’s basketball fans

  8. 8 312chill
    November 7, 2007 at 10:09 am

    They are looking good early on. Even if Rondo isn’t quite enoug this season, I think he’s going to be pretty good in the long run. If the important 3 stay healthy and keep their legs somewhat intact, I think next season is more likely to be their year. Right now I’m predicting a very good regular season record but not a deep playoff run.


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