Posts Tagged ‘Boston Celtics

28
Apr
09

pissed (tell me you don’t know why) – bulls v. celtics – game 5

well that sucked.  i don’t know what could be done to make it better.

[PICTURE OF BLOODY BRAD MILLER AND KIRK HINRICH COMING SOON]

brad miller is (UNOFFICIALLY) flagrantly fouled

brad miller is (UNOFFICIALLY) flagrantly fouled

here’s a thought, someone with a lot more money than i have should put out an ad series: “nba playoffs – where shi*#y officiating happens.”

don’t get me wrong.  i’m not saying the bulls got screwed over start to finish.  it was more or less equally bad for both sides.  but it hurt the bulls in the end because they got the bad calls last.

look, i think all most of us want is for the games to NOT be decided by the referees.  i believe it’s hard being an nba ref.  so, what i demand as a fan is that they call the game consistently.  again, will it be easy? of course not.  but that has to be the goal.  it almost never seems like it is to me.

sometimes one team seems to get the benefit of the doubt.  it could be because that team is a more veteran team or did a better job complaining to the league offices after the last game (or randomly complained that two of the officials at the last game were chicagoans – stupid celtics).  OR, it could be one player gets the benefit of the doubt because he’s the most talented person on the floor, influencing refs to avoid calling fouls on him and rush to call fouls against him.  OTHER TIMES, the officiating crew on a particular night just refuses to call things consistently, regardless of which player or team they’re calling against.  this last case is what occurred in the bulls game tonight.

CONSTANTLY picks, shooting fouls, blocking fouls or charging that occurred or didn’t to some extent were being called in exactly the opposite manner one or two plays later.  you couldn’t help but believe that whichever team or team’s player RECENTLY did the best job of complaining earned that team the right to get a “make up” call soon thereafter.  REGARDLESS of legitimacy.

all i’m saying is, why aren’t nba officials held to the same IDEAL standard as the home plate umpire in an mlb game?  we know everyone is human and has different judgments, vision, opinions, etc.  what we demand out of our umpires is that when the ball is up and in at a given spot and called for a ball against one player, every pitch in that location is called a ball for the rest of the game.  does it always happen?  of course not!  but that is the widely accepted standard.

the thing that drives me crazy about my beloved nba is that this consistency consistently isn’t expected, certainly doesn’t occur, and doesn’t even seem to be hoped for anymore by nba commentators and analysts.  i could give you quotes from nba writers i correspond with defending the refs.  well, defending might not be the right word.  it’s more that they tell me, “yeah, it’s messed up.  so what would you do about it?  david stern has nothing either.”  i say, “NOT GOOD ENOUGH.”

we know from the tim donaghy scandal, these guys make somewhere in the $200K per year range (i have no idea why).  that amount is good enough to force them to work 300 days or so per year (anybody who disagrees is free to switch jobs with me, i’ll do yours, believe me, especially if it is watching nba games).  if they don’t like it?  what was that other high paying job that refereeing basketball games made you qualified for again?  oh yeah, that’s right, nothing.  work your ass of for this money or walk away. it’s your choice and that’s what we (should) demand.  you’re not just influencing the 30 players or so in the stadium that night.  you’re influencing the emotions of millions of fans.  you have to work for that right.  it is not, nor should it ever be, a given.  when they aren’t officiating, make them study tape, watch pickup games, i don’t know, anything to get better.  hell, bottom string PLAYERS make less than that and are CERTAINLY held to higher standards (except for brian scalabrine who is in the league only so the moronic celtics fans DESPERATELY want to BELIEVE they have an irish person [i have no idea if he has irish ancestry or not] on their team).  the point is, DEMAND BETTER.  i just don’t see the nba doing it.

someday i’ll learn.  as of today, i can’t quite give it up.

P.S. – what happened to KG?  there was a time i believed he was the ideal nba player.  he really cared about winning.  he was the consummate pro.  now?  he’s a little other word for a female dog.  end of game 1 when the celtics were losing to the “lowly” bulls? he couldn’t stand it and ran to the locker room out of the public eye.  end of game 5?  ONLY ONCE HE KNEW they were going to win, was he on some BS.

so youre yelling at ben gordon because hes playing hurt and youre not?

so you're yelling at ben gordon because he's playing hurt and you're not?

P.S.S. – sorry for all of the parentheses today.  i was in the mood to not care.

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11
Jan
08

Noah suspended, Bulls shouldn’t have trouble with Celtics

I missed tonight’s Bulls vs. Sixers game so no feedback this time.

 Joakim Noah was apparently suspended for tonight’s game by the team for getting into a verbal altercation with assistant Ron Adams.  I don’t know what to think about that.  It must have been pretty bad for them to suspend him though, unless they were just being tough on the rookie.

The next three games are against the Spurs, Rockets and Celtics, all on the road.  The Bulls desperately need to win two of those games which of course means beating either the Spurs or the Celtics.   I guess we can chalk up the Spurs game as a loss and depend on beating the Rockets and the Celtics.  Houston is supposed to be playing better without T-Mac but I think Chicago can still win that one.  And the Celtics just lost to the Bobcats, so the Bulls should be able to deal with them easily.  Comments please . . .

19
Dec
07

The problem with the Detroit Pistons

Chauncey Billups referring to his upcoming game against the Boston Celtics, from espn.com’s Daily Dime today:

I love these games," Detroit's Chauncey Billups
said. "I really don't like playing against .500
teams or under-.500 teams, because what do you
have to win? Even if you beat them, people say
you should have won by more. This is a game
against the best team in the NBA . . .

This attitude and arrogance is why the Bulls beat the Pistons twice already this season despite the fact that Chicago has yet to come together as a team or find any consistency. What do the Pistons have to win against teams under .500? How about the game.

I think Chauncey was lucky the Pistons paid him last offseason for his prior service, because with his attitude and age I don’t think the few teams that had cap flexibility would have shelled out very much money for him.

Before anybody blasts me in the comments section, yes, I am aware that the Chicago Bulls currently have more problems than the Pistons. At least effort, passion and a desire to win aren’t among those problems.

17
Oct
07

Bulls Discourse – To trade or not to trade

A reader by the name of Joe P. has been leaving some good comments lately, while apparently not paying attention in class.  I was responding to his most recent comment and my response got so long, and included so much that I feel passionate about, that I thought I’d make our discourse a post of it’s own. 

Joe, I hope you don’t mind that I’m doing this.  If you do, please let me know and I’ll take it down.

You can see Joe P’s comments attached to the previous post.

Joe P, October 17:

Alright Cam. Quickly going to talk about Da Bears (or should I say Da Bums) then I am going to move onto the Baby-teen Bulls.

I am starting to lose my faith in Lovie. I don’t think he is a very good game planner. I am angry that Hester isn’t involved in every play. Aside from my long-snap idea (see above), which apparently is not original only to me, Hester is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the fastest guy on the field. Tell me that the New England Belichicks wouldn’t game-plan him in more than four plays a game. All you need to do is run him on a fly route on almost every pass play. If the safety comes over to help, then you have taken out two defenders with one receiver, advantage Bears. If the safety doesn’t come over to help the CB, throw it really really far, because, similar to what Steve Smith told Testaverde, you can’t overthrow Hester. And, even if you do, it won’t be an interception and it spreads the D.

Let’s be serious. The Bears O sucks. It has to be creative. The whole 60% run, 40% pass game plan isn’t cutting it. The D also has been crappy, but their crappiness isn’t as palpable.

Okay, onto the Bulls. This is really an important first quarter season. We have an unsigned Gordon. We have an unsigned Deng. And, we have a bona-fide, championship hungry superstar that wants to come to Chicago in Kobe. More importantly, we have an immediate threat in the Boston Celtics Ceatles (the dumbest nickname in the history of professional anything), and the future threat of whatever team LeBron jumps ships to (maybe Chicago).

One way this whole situation could shake out is that the Bulls resign both Gordon and Deng, which we can do. The problem is we can’t do much else. Based on what I have seen so far, the Bulls will probably be good, but not great. Good-ness is what management needs because it keeps the seats full, Greatness is what fans want because it wins championships. I might be wrong. Maybe the Bulls turn the corner and are able to play perfect team basketball. Maybe Gordon or Deng or both become the superstars we need and the Bulls become insanely good.

The second way this whole thing shakes out. The Bulls are competitive, but not great. We then get rid of everything we can, with the exception of Deng, to try and get Kobe. I think a trade for Kobe is possible if Gordon is signed, with the Laker’s understanding, to an amount high enough to make the trade legal. Kobe would be a good starting point, and with Deng, Wallace, Thomas/Noah(whichever isn’t included in the trade) the Bulls would be a very talented starting group.

Finally, the Bulls could resign everyone, see how everything shakes out, risk mediocrity for the next couple years, and try to lure LeBron onto the favorite team of his childhood.

Basically, I think that these Bulls, as they are constructed now, are not going to be able to compete with a healthy Celtics or Cavs team. Certainly, the Bulls cannot compete with a healthy Suns or Rockets team. The Bulls need to either emerge from their proverbial cocoon and kick ass as a team re-born or restructure for the present or the future.

Cameron Watkins, October 17:

Joe P.,

I haven’t lost any faith in Lovie, but I don’t think I ever had as much faith in him as others did.  It has always seemed to me that when he’s matched up against a great coach he’s inevitably out coached.  He is, in my opinion, a very good but not great football coach.  This is evident even when he’s goes up against another very good coach because in that situation whichever team has more talent on the field that day always wins.

I’ve heard multiple reporters claim that Hester actually isn’t the fastest Bear (apparently it’s Danielle Manning) and thus it would stand to reason that he isn’t always the fastest player on the field.  However, he is VERY VERY VERY fast.  Bernard Berrian is pretty darn fast too.  Let them both run fly routes, send Moose across the middle, and put Olsen or Clark 15-20 yards out while being covered by a linebacker and somebody is bound to be open.  I’m no football expert, but I don’t see how this could fail.  The difference between what I’m proposing and what the Bears are running is – like you’ve proposed – keeping Hester in the game on offense.  That change would make the difference.  I don’t understand why they don’t do it.  He’s proved he’s at least acceptable at catching and blocking, so why can’t he be an every down receiver?

The D is hurt but something has to change nevertheless.  Far less talented teams are giving up less points every week.  Maybe it’s too much Cover 2, I don’t really know. 

Okay, on to the Bulls.  I find it amazing how badly Kobe wants a chance to prove he’s Michael Jordan 2.  I’m not sure if I want him to be a Bull or not – it of course all depends on what it takes to get him – but I can’t say I’m disappointed that Chicago is clearly his dream location and the only team out of the three he’s pinning for that the Lakers will ever trade him to.

I truly believe that if they re-sign Gordon and Deng and hold on to all the players currently on their rookie contracts for as long as possible they will have multiple very good shots at a title.  Think of the Pistons over the last five seasons, but younger and less arrogant/dismissive/overconfident/lame.  I don’t believe they will ever need superstars to win it all because they are soooooo deep and talented.  Injuries won’t stop this team.  Very few if any other teams in the NBA can say that.  One injury to a big three player on the Celtics and they’re done.  Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe, Tim Duncan, any of these players are out for a long part of the season or any of the playoffs and their team is done.  The Rockets could be the one exception.  I think they could weather an injury to Yao or McGrady.  Their not as deep as the Bulls, but they’re deeper in all-stars and still have good overall depth.

Kobe and Luol are not enough to win a championship.  I’d love to have Kobe, but if we have to give up too much to get him it’s just not worth it.  Most I think I’d give up is Gordon, their choice of Tyrus or Noah, Chris Duhon, Ben Wallace if they wanted him, and every future Bulls draft pick for the next 10 years.  The problem is, unless they take Wallace I don’t think the salaries match up.  The Bulls would probably have to give up two starters (assuming they extend Gordon and Deng for more money) and change to make salaries work.  Plus, I don’t even think that would work because the bumps in the salaries that would come from the extensions wouldn’t even come into play until next season (I believe).  

If the Bulls keep everybody they will not be mediocre.  They will be a top 5 team in the power rankings for the next 3-4 seasons.  The only reason their window will be that small is they won’t be able to keep guys like Thomas, Sefolosha and Noah when their rookie contracts run out because they’ll be too close to the salary cap already.  It’s too bad, because if this team could stay together for 10 years I am sure amazing things could happen.  When Ben Wallace’s contract comes off the books in a few years they’ll have room for 1.5 out of the three I mentioned, but that still means losing two of them.  Suddenly the Bulls aren’t so deep.  

If LeBron does decide to leave Cleveland, the only way the Bulls are going to be able to get him is with a sign-and-trade.  I don’t see why Cleveland would ever do that with a team in it’s own division.  The Bulls won’t have anywhere near enough space under the cap to sign him straight up.  There is always the chance that LeBron will decide he already has enough money and will take a smaller contract to make things work out for whatever team he picks, but I highly doubt that will happen.  

Finally, I have to take issue with your assertion that the Bulls will not hang with a healthy Celtics or Cavs team, particularly the Cavs.  BronBron is an amazing talent.  No doubt.  However, the Bulls are superior to the Cavs at every other position.  With the outstanding D the Bulls will have LeBron won’t be enough.  Also, as I’ve well documented in previous posts, I don’t believe the Celtics will be able to hang with the Bulls in a 7-game series.  To avoid redundancy I, and pissing off more Celtics fans, I won’t go into that again.  

The other issue I see facing the Bulls right now is how they’re going to sort out the guard situation.  Hinrich, Gordon, now Deng, Sefolosha, Duhon, Curry and Gardner all are worthy of playing time as guards.  Hinrich, Gordon and Deng aren’t going anywhere this season unless something happens with Kobe (or a big man to be named later, but I doubt that).  Sefolosha is likely to get a lot of tic as well unless he shows he hasn’t improved from last year.  Then you have Duhon, Curry and Gardner.  There’s space in the rotation for one of them, and not much space at that.  Duhon brings the veteran experience and probably better defense than the other two.  Curry and Gardner both bring more athleticism and scoring ability, which are both valuable traits off the bench.  If I’m Paxson, I’m tempted to trade one or two of them to a team needing guards.  The only problem is you’ll get a role player back in exchange and what role on the Bulls can be improved upon by anybody short of an all-star?  Oh well, too much talent is a very good problem to have.

In closing, the Bulls are going to be VERY good this season.  They may start slowly, as they seem to do every year, but they will finish the season strong, go deep in the playoffs, and have a good shot at a title.  The future is bright as well.  Steve Nash can’t play like an MVP until he’s 40.  The Pistons are aging quickly.  I think the Mavs are going to break down this season after two years of huge playoff disappointments.  The Spurs will decline with Tim Duncan because Tony Parker and Manu Giniobili are as good as they are because they play on the same team as Tim Duncan.  The Rockets and Jazz will be the Bulls’ primary foes in the coming seasons, but the Bulls match up well against both teams.  Exciting times are ahead for us Bulls fans. 

27
Aug
07

Posey – add a little get a lot

James Posey is exactly the type of player that I didn’t think the Celtics would be able to acquire this summer.  I didn’t think Boston would spend enough money to get such a quality player, or on any one player for that matter.  I also didn’t think Posey would have to take as little money as he reportedly is getting.

Posey will help that team immensely.  He brings defense and attitude.  He’s somewhat like the enforcer on a hockey team.  If you mess with his star player he’ll come back at you, even if it costs him a suspension.  With three aging and ever more brittle stars the Celtics will benefit from Posey’s presence and reputation.  He’s a dirty player, which makes opposing fans (like me) hate him, but he does the dirty work so that the faces of the franchise don’t have to.

Though Posey wouldn’t be a centerpiece of any NBA team, he makes me believe Boston will do much better this season than I originally thought.  He immediately becomes the fourth best player on the roster and is the definition of a role player.  He’ll actually help the team whereas, I believe, Scott Pollard and Eddie House will just take up roster spots. 

He’s touted as a defensive specialist and while he’s a good defensive player I’d say “specialist” is a bit extreme.  To bring this conversation back to a Bulls perspective let’s remember what Luol Deng did in the playoffs against the Heat while being guarded primarily by Posey:

26.3 ppg
9.0   rpg
3.0   apg
1.2   spg

Deng’s performance was more of a sign of how good he’s becoming than it is an indicator of the quality of Posey’s defense, but it also shows us Posey is not necessarily a “stopper”.  Nevertheless, the Celtics just moved up a couple of spots in my preseason power rankings.

I have to emphasize for all the Bulls fans out there that I HATE James Posey as a player.  What I’m trying to get across in this post is that he’s a much more valuable player than I thought Boston would pick up and that, with what they already have, he’ll do a lot for that team.  With multiple offensive stars already there he can do the same things he did for the Heat and that role seemed to work out pretty well for him.

By the way, what’s going on with the Heat this summer?  Posey, Jones and Kapono all gone and they countered that by adding Smush Parker?  I’m sure they have luxury tax issues but why even field a team or bother to pay Shaq and D.Wade if you’re not going to be competitive?

22
Aug
07

The Celtics and Team USA

Today in Chris Sheridan’s column he pointed out that Team USA may have some trouble successfully blending the playing styles of Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo:

The uninformed might wonder: "How could they possibly lose with those
three playing together? To which the informed might reply: "Hey, that's
three guys on the court at the same time who, no matter how good they
are, all need the ball in their hands to be effective. It'll be tough
to make that work."

When you read Team USA’s dilemma, what current NBA roster does it remind you of? I know there’s some team that now has three superstars who have throughout their careers always had possession of the ball more than anybody else on their team. Now, suddenly those three players, – just like Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo – are being thrust onto the same team and everyone is as sure that they’ll easily win the Eastern Conference as they were Kobe, LeBron and Carmelo would easily handle the Select Team.

The difference between the Team USA trio and the Celtics trio is that the Celtics will have an entire season to work out the kinks while Team USA will have 10 games. So let’s say that the Celtics do work out the kinks. Paul Pierce becomes the dominant ball handler. When KG gets good position he’ll get the ball in the post and hold it until he shoots or is double teamed. If he’s double teamed he’ll kick it out to the three point line for Ray Allen. Sounds like a great system, right? It is, BUT it will be a vast waste of Ray Allen’s talents if things work out this way. He will be paid like the superstar he is, while playing the game that Jason Kapono plays. Think he’ll get tired of that at some point?

The other possibility is that they never can adapt to not having the entire offense run through them thus never develop a good chemistry. Either way it doesn’t matter because no chemistry means an 8 seed even in the East and good chemistry means a second round playoff series loss because they don’t have a bench. I don’t mean to hate on the Celtics, but Sheridan’s analysis of the Big 3 on Team USA perfectly illustrates my previous arguments about the Celtics and there’s really not a lot of NBA news to write about right now.

Oh well, at least Team USA has a bench.

15
Aug
07

The Clippers, Hawks and Grizzlies are relevant!

 

Ever since KG was traded to Boston the word relevant has been popping up everywhere in reference to professional sports teams.  The Celtics are suddenly relevant again, thank god they’re finally relevant again!  Every night when I went to bed before I fell asleep I would dream of the day when they would be relevant.  Not win a title, not make the playoffs, but become relevant.  My dreams have finally come true! 

Today I read an article about how quickly the White Sox went from world series champions to irrelevant.  It’s spreading!  At the ’08 NBA draft the talking heads aren’t going to be mentioning this player’s upside, that guy’s length, and whoever’s motor.  They’ll be telling us that with the #1 pick in the draft the Minnesota Timberwolves should select Derrick Rose, because no matter how exciting O.J. Mayo may seem, there’s no prospect out there more relevant than Rose right now.

 I’ve looked up several definitions for the word and they all hinge on “the matter at hand” or “the subject at issue”. 

e.g. from dictionary.com:
Having a bearing on or connection with the matter at hand.

So when they say the Celtics are relevant again, what is the issue at hand?  Sure, there are all sorts of issues in discussion of which the Celtics would be relevant.  However, the adjective isn’t appropriate without a given subject at hand.  You can’t tell me the Celtics are relevant again because they have Kevin Garnett.  They were relevant a couple of months ago when we were talking about the NBA draft even though they didn’t have Garnett.  They’re not relevant today when we’re talking about who will win the Western Conf. or (in my opinion) who will win the NBA championship.

In a recent article Jeff Passan calls Ozzie Guillen and the White Sox irrelevant.  This isn’t a basketball issue but it’s a good example for my argument.

Irrelevance can come with the ferocity and swiftness of a bee poised to
sting, and the results can be equally painful.

Doesn’t the fact that Passan is writing about Guillen and the White Sox make them relevant, at least right now and to him?  If they were irrelevant before, isn’t he making them relevant again by writing about them for Yahoo Sports?  It’s not that I disagree with his larger argument.  2 years ago Ozzie Guillen couldn’t do wrong despite his out of control, controversial personality because the Sox were in 1st place.  Now he’s not so popular.  But that doesn’t make him irrelevant when the subject at issue is Major League Baseball. 




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